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		<title>By: Kiwipolitico &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You can&#8217;t mess with the messers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiwipolitico &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You can&#8217;t mess with the messers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reluctantly because I don&#8217;t entirely agree, it&#8217;s somewhat like what the Randians are saying about Obama&#8217;s response to the BP oil spill: no amount of threat or bluster can provide any [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron Andrews</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3437</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with you that Obama cannot simply order the well sealed, and no one is claiming that he can.  But you do us all a grave disservice when you equate a single outburst of frustration to BP&#039;s intentional criminal negligence that caused the disaster.  Did Obama order BP to violate it&#039;s safety regulations?  Did he order them to cut corners and disregard the technical advice they were getting?  No he didn&#039;t.  Obama isn&#039;t Kip Chalmers, BP is.

When Kip Chalmers demanded to get through the Taggart Tunnel, he ordered TT to use a coal burning locomotive that could not run through the tunnel, rather than wait for a new diesel.  He ordered TT to operate in an unsafe manner, in violation of their safety protocols because he refused to accept reality and wait for the engineers to work.

Did BP accept that drilling a well 5000ft. down is also an engineering feat?  And that no amount of threats from the CEO could complete the well safely any faster than they were?  No, the BP company men on the rig ordered the drillers to operate in an unsafe manner to save what we now know was an insignificant amount of time and money, with no motive other than pure greed and hubris.

BP decided that the liner/tieback well casing was too time-consuming and expensive to install, so they cut corners and used a cheaper, weaker method to save 3 days and $10million dollars.

BP disregarded Halliburton’s advice to use 21 centralizers to ensure an even concrete seal and instead used only 6.  Installing the other 15 would take 10 hours and BP just couldn’t wait that long.  Sound familiar yet?

The Blowout Preventer was damaged in March 2010 and BP did not repair the damage.

BP skipped the testing of the concrete bond because it would cost $128,000.

And just hours before the Deepwater Horizon explosion, a BP company man ordered Transocean employees, against their objections, to remove the heavy drilling mud from the well before it was fully sealed to save a bit of time.  Surviving rig workers report that they were threatened with being fired if they didn’t obey BP’s orders.  Hmm, now who else said that?

BP is the company who said that engineering progress can be conjured up by executive order, that costs can be cut without consequence, that safety measures can be disregarded to save a few bucks.  BP’s push to complete the well in a criminally negligent manner caused the Deepwater Horizon explosion which killed 11 men, just like Kip Chalmers caused the Taggart Tunnel collapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with you that Obama cannot simply order the well sealed, and no one is claiming that he can.  But you do us all a grave disservice when you equate a single outburst of frustration to BP&#8217;s intentional criminal negligence that caused the disaster.  Did Obama order BP to violate it&#8217;s safety regulations?  Did he order them to cut corners and disregard the technical advice they were getting?  No he didn&#8217;t.  Obama isn&#8217;t Kip Chalmers, BP is.</p>
<p>When Kip Chalmers demanded to get through the Taggart Tunnel, he ordered TT to use a coal burning locomotive that could not run through the tunnel, rather than wait for a new diesel.  He ordered TT to operate in an unsafe manner, in violation of their safety protocols because he refused to accept reality and wait for the engineers to work.</p>
<p>Did BP accept that drilling a well 5000ft. down is also an engineering feat?  And that no amount of threats from the CEO could complete the well safely any faster than they were?  No, the BP company men on the rig ordered the drillers to operate in an unsafe manner to save what we now know was an insignificant amount of time and money, with no motive other than pure greed and hubris.</p>
<p>BP decided that the liner/tieback well casing was too time-consuming and expensive to install, so they cut corners and used a cheaper, weaker method to save 3 days and $10million dollars.</p>
<p>BP disregarded Halliburton’s advice to use 21 centralizers to ensure an even concrete seal and instead used only 6.  Installing the other 15 would take 10 hours and BP just couldn’t wait that long.  Sound familiar yet?</p>
<p>The Blowout Preventer was damaged in March 2010 and BP did not repair the damage.</p>
<p>BP skipped the testing of the concrete bond because it would cost $128,000.</p>
<p>And just hours before the Deepwater Horizon explosion, a BP company man ordered Transocean employees, against their objections, to remove the heavy drilling mud from the well before it was fully sealed to save a bit of time.  Surviving rig workers report that they were threatened with being fired if they didn’t obey BP’s orders.  Hmm, now who else said that?</p>
<p>BP is the company who said that engineering progress can be conjured up by executive order, that costs can be cut without consequence, that safety measures can be disregarded to save a few bucks.  BP’s push to complete the well in a criminally negligent manner caused the Deepwater Horizon explosion which killed 11 men, just like Kip Chalmers caused the Taggart Tunnel collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Fraizer</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3432</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Fraizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Plug the damn hole!&quot;

I hope Thomas &quot;Kip&#039;s Ma&quot; Friedman doesn&#039;t send all our drilling rigs off somewhere to harvest soybeans.   I can imagine Friedman intoning, &quot;At a time of desperate public need, it&#039;s our duty to sacrifice our luxurious [lifestyle and conserve] our way back to prosperity by adapting ourselves to the simple, wholesome [energy] on which the peoples of the Orient have so nobly subsisted for centuries. There&#039;s a great deal that we could learn from the peoples of the Orient.&quot;

[Brackets mine...with apologies to Ms. Rand.]

Friedman loves the Orient.  Chinese leaders can *get things done* without all that messy consent of the governed...

Best regards!

In liberty,
--Colin Fraizer
Plainfield, IN, USA</description>
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<p>I hope Thomas &#8220;Kip&#8217;s Ma&#8221; Friedman doesn&#8217;t send all our drilling rigs off somewhere to harvest soybeans.   I can imagine Friedman intoning, &#8220;At a time of desperate public need, it&#8217;s our duty to sacrifice our luxurious [lifestyle and conserve] our way back to prosperity by adapting ourselves to the simple, wholesome [energy] on which the peoples of the Orient have so nobly subsisted for centuries. There&#8217;s a great deal that we could learn from the peoples of the Orient.&#8221;</p>
<p>[Brackets mine...with apologies to Ms. Rand.]</p>
<p>Friedman loves the Orient.  Chinese leaders can *get things done* without all that messy consent of the governed&#8230;</p>
<p>Best regards!</p>
<p>In liberty,<br />
&#8211;Colin Fraizer<br />
Plainfield, IN, USA</p>
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		<title>By: We Need More Ideas!! &#124; Dexter Industries Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3426</link>
		<dc:creator>We Need More Ideas!! &#124; Dexter Industries Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   So what are your ideas for plugging the well?&#160; Comment it, and we&#8217;ll send it to President Obama and the president of BP, and give you credit.&#160; Let&#8217;s hear some crazy ideas . . .    [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   So what are your ideas for plugging the well?&nbsp; Comment it, and we&#8217;ll send it to President Obama and the president of BP, and give you credit.&nbsp; Let&#8217;s hear some crazy ideas . . .    [...]</p>
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		<title>By: We Need More Ideas!! &#124; Dexter Industries</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3414</link>
		<dc:creator>We Need More Ideas!! &#124; Dexter Industries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what are your ideas for plugging the well?  Comment it, and we&#8217;ll send it to President Obama and the president of BP, and give you credit.  Let&#8217;s hear some crazy ideas . . .  UPDATE: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what are your ideas for plugging the well?  Comment it, and we&#8217;ll send it to President Obama and the president of BP, and give you credit.  Let&#8217;s hear some crazy ideas . . .  UPDATE: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Feeney</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3393</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Feeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can well imagine that Obama is posturing over the BP oil spill; I don&#039;t know and haven&#039;t followed the issue much; I don&#039;t care much, either.  He&#039;ll do whatever he&#039;s going to do.

What&#039;s obvious to me, however, is that like some wonderfully Promethean character out of Ayn Rand&#039;s elitist and libertarian and somewhat anti-social imagination, BP has just screwed up the Gulf of Mexico for years to come, primarily because of (a) greed and impatience (b) capitalist cost-cutting on safety and environmental technology, and (c) technological hubris.  

These are exactly the kinds of faults one might expect to see from a Promethean individual or a Promothean institution devoted to Ayn Rand&#039;s moral and political principles: near-fatal mistakes arising from bad logic, arrogance and contempt for public opinion.

So I&#039;d like to congratulate all of the libertarian ideologues at REASON for helping to promote a culture in which technological and economic folly of this magnitude can function.  You&#039;re probably right about the need for technical expertise to clean up the mess, and right again about the futility of politicians shouting at BP technicians to speed the cleanup along.

But who cares?  If these people have all of this technolgical genius -- if they share the stern and arrogant technical mastery of one of Ayn Rand&#039;s heroes -- why didn&#039;t they stop the damned accident in the first place?

I love the proposal floating around Facebook on the plan to plug the spewing oil well with copies of &quot;Atlas Strugged,&quot; but I somehow don&#039;t think you&#039;re the people who are promoting it.  It would be a great use for the pages of the book, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can well imagine that Obama is posturing over the BP oil spill; I don&#8217;t know and haven&#8217;t followed the issue much; I don&#8217;t care much, either.  He&#8217;ll do whatever he&#8217;s going to do.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s obvious to me, however, is that like some wonderfully Promethean character out of Ayn Rand&#8217;s elitist and libertarian and somewhat anti-social imagination, BP has just screwed up the Gulf of Mexico for years to come, primarily because of (a) greed and impatience (b) capitalist cost-cutting on safety and environmental technology, and (c) technological hubris.  </p>
<p>These are exactly the kinds of faults one might expect to see from a Promethean individual or a Promothean institution devoted to Ayn Rand&#8217;s moral and political principles: near-fatal mistakes arising from bad logic, arrogance and contempt for public opinion.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d like to congratulate all of the libertarian ideologues at REASON for helping to promote a culture in which technological and economic folly of this magnitude can function.  You&#8217;re probably right about the need for technical expertise to clean up the mess, and right again about the futility of politicians shouting at BP technicians to speed the cleanup along.</p>
<p>But who cares?  If these people have all of this technolgical genius &#8212; if they share the stern and arrogant technical mastery of one of Ayn Rand&#8217;s heroes &#8212; why didn&#8217;t they stop the damned accident in the first place?</p>
<p>I love the proposal floating around Facebook on the plan to plug the spewing oil well with copies of &#8220;Atlas Strugged,&#8221; but I somehow don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re the people who are promoting it.  It would be a great use for the pages of the book, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Domingo García</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3382</link>
		<dc:creator>Domingo García</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Tom,
May I translate and publish your article in www.Objetivismo.org? Thank You!  Please DO NOT PUBLISH this comment. 
Regards,
Domingo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Tom,<br />
May I translate and publish your article in <a href="http://www.Objetivismo.org?" rel="nofollow">http://www.Objetivismo.org?</a> Thank You!  Please DO NOT PUBLISH this comment.<br />
Regards,<br />
Domingo</p>
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		<title>By: The Disaster of the Gulf Oil Leak</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3339</link>
		<dc:creator>The Disaster of the Gulf Oil Leak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Plug the Damn Hole!&#8221; by Tom Bowden of ARCObama&#8217;s Metaphysical Frustration by Doug ReichA Quick Thought on this Oil Spill and Extraordinarily Callous by Trey Givens [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Plug the Damn Hole!&#8221; by Tom Bowden of ARCObama&#8217;s Metaphysical Frustration by Doug ReichA Quick Thought on this Oil Spill and Extraordinarily Callous by Trey Givens [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dennis olson</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3333</link>
		<dc:creator>dennis olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your kidding me right? What should be the governments repsonse?  This has nothing to do with Chalmers reponse.  I think &#039;plug the fu$%$#% hole&#039; is the thinking of any intelligent person.  In fact I think any intelligent person shouold be thinging right now is &#039;They spend a lot of time and money making a hole in the ocean floor but not time and money thinking about plugging one up.  if anything i think the governments position on this has been fairly benign and not agressive enough, depending on BP fix its mess. I wonder what John Galt and the rest would do to Ellis Wyatt if had an oil spill of this magnitude in their perfect little valley!  Come on, there is much to admire about Ayn Rand and Atlas Shrugged, but responses to environemental issues is not one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your kidding me right? What should be the governments repsonse?  This has nothing to do with Chalmers reponse.  I think &#8216;plug the fu$%$#% hole&#8217; is the thinking of any intelligent person.  In fact I think any intelligent person shouold be thinging right now is &#8216;They spend a lot of time and money making a hole in the ocean floor but not time and money thinking about plugging one up.  if anything i think the governments position on this has been fairly benign and not agressive enough, depending on BP fix its mess. I wonder what John Galt and the rest would do to Ellis Wyatt if had an oil spill of this magnitude in their perfect little valley!  Come on, there is much to admire about Ayn Rand and Atlas Shrugged, but responses to environemental issues is not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ric Crouch</title>
		<link>http://blog.aynrandcenter.org/plug-the-damn-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3281</link>
		<dc:creator>Ric Crouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 05:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bowden,
  I was also reminded of the portion of the book where Dagny is told to make the trains run, and she asks how to do it.  She&#039;s told it&#039;s HER job to know how, and she just has to get it done.  She says she doesn&#039;t KNOW how (since she&#039;s in an impossible situation) and asks for instructions.  This frustrates James Taggart, whose only skill is in giving orders, not in achieving results.
    I have seen this attitude repeatedly throughout this administration, whether it&#039;s fixing the auto industry, the financial institutions, or an oil spill.  The government acts as though their order that the situation be resolved is sufficient to make it happen. If I were an auto executive who had been hauled in front of Congress and told to make &quot;cars that Americans want,&quot; I&#039;d have asked them exactly what that was.  Safe money is that the congressmen wouldn&#039;t have known.  If they THOUGHT they knew, and gave their opinion, it would have been interesting to see how their proposals would have fared in the market.  Do politicians HONESTLY think that ANY BUSINESS would intentionally build and try to sell items their customers didn&#039;t want?  Are they that detached from reality?

The politicians in Washington need to, as John Galt says in the novel, need to get out of the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bowden,<br />
  I was also reminded of the portion of the book where Dagny is told to make the trains run, and she asks how to do it.  She&#8217;s told it&#8217;s HER job to know how, and she just has to get it done.  She says she doesn&#8217;t KNOW how (since she&#8217;s in an impossible situation) and asks for instructions.  This frustrates James Taggart, whose only skill is in giving orders, not in achieving results.<br />
    I have seen this attitude repeatedly throughout this administration, whether it&#8217;s fixing the auto industry, the financial institutions, or an oil spill.  The government acts as though their order that the situation be resolved is sufficient to make it happen. If I were an auto executive who had been hauled in front of Congress and told to make &#8220;cars that Americans want,&#8221; I&#8217;d have asked them exactly what that was.  Safe money is that the congressmen wouldn&#8217;t have known.  If they THOUGHT they knew, and gave their opinion, it would have been interesting to see how their proposals would have fared in the market.  Do politicians HONESTLY think that ANY BUSINESS would intentionally build and try to sell items their customers didn&#8217;t want?  Are they that detached from reality?</p>
<p>The politicians in Washington need to, as John Galt says in the novel, need to get out of the way.</p>
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